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Tuesday September 10 so you think that

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there's alien technology at area 51

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we're finally finding out what's going

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on we reverse-engineer alien spacecraft

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there's no way I missed on that game

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mysteries Dakota on Tuesday September 10

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on the CW today on the show Rob

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Kristofferson that's right

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it's another volume of UFO happy hour he

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moves forward a little bit you can see

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that you can finally see this light

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coming down from the ceiling so stands

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under this light and the loud booming

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voice says what is your age and Alfred

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Berto says oh I'll be turning 78 on my

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next birthday and the alien beings tell

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him you can go you are too old and

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infirm for our purpose this is somewhere

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[Music]

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welcome to another edition of UFO happy

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hour and as usual I have with me Rob

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Kristofferson the host of the hour

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strange skies podcast Rob how you doin

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brother I am good I am happy to be back

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I don't know why these people will keep

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wanting me back but apparently they love

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it and you gotta give the people what

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they love so I I want a Twitter poll so

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suck it whatever else lost yep the

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people have spoken they like you fo

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happy are the best me too man you do all

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the work for these episodes so let's

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just be upfront and I get to sit back a

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brew with you which is always a really

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good time so I got asking what do you

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well I teased it on the internet and

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let's I bought some cans of Labatt Blue

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a while back and they've been waiting

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for another episode

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you fo happy hour so finally got to dust

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those bad boys off I'm three beers in at

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this point oh this is gonna be fine yeah

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it should be oh god you're a man after

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my heart Rob Labatt blue one of my

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favorites I'm drooling over here I can't

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find it in New York man we're not that

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far away how like how does New York City

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not have this I've seen it in like two

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bars and it's in the like way way back

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in a dark corner shit's probably not

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even refrigerated half the time and it's

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hard man there's I you can't find Molson

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here to save your life let alone blue so

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Molson's practically a no-go it's it

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rarely makes it over the border you if

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you're a little closer to Canada up and

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you know like I could probably go visit

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my sister in Ogdensburg and I could

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probably get some but yeah it's really

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tough it is we're gonna have to get some

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of our friends and jabbin eius and a few

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others to smuggle that [\h__\h] over here

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next time yeah come on MJ hook us up man

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I know mr. celebrity now mr. mystery

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stick coated Mothman yeah I didn't know

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he was a Mothman researcher did you no I

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did not and

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you know what the world needs more

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Mothman researcher so I'm down with it

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absolutely no I I was so impressed with

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with the work he did on that show I

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thought it was excellent and we need we

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need more people to look at that stuff

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you know get more junk eel in the world

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with a second season now we're gonna be

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looking deeper into all that weird [\h__\h]

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so are you pumped for that oh hell yeah

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that trailer they dropped I was just

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like wow yeah you could like Greg

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and you know the fact that the the

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emails now continue I just I'm stunned

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imagine where this seasons going they

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announced on Twitter that they were

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filming the final portions of it this

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weekend so I can't wait yeah I remember

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on you know Carl Pfeiffer the director

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and filmmaker was in was in here in New

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York not too long ago and we we had

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dinner and I asked him I'm like so when

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when when can we expect more and he just

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said flat out he's like when the

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phenomenon shows itself again like you

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such a perfect answer that's that's so

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Carl - it is yes it's so true though man

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you can't force these things and they're

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on their own journey and path to find

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maybe find answers they might never find

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answers to all this weird stuff but the

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fact that they're documenting it and

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doing it independently and on their own

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I love it I love it I'm a huge fan I

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can't wait for that

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you know answers I don't think are

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something that is built-in to this

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phenomena until like any of this

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phenomenon for the most part it's just

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something you experience something that

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reminds you that your world is not as

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familiar as you may think it is and that

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there are other nuances to it that's you

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know will keep you scratching your head

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for a lifetime I'd know people that have

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had one or two strange experiences and

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it like totally changes their worldview

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so if that's what this phenomenon is

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doing well it's doing a pretty good job

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of it I think so

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this whole trickster element to I I

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don't care I've told people so many damn

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times I don't care if I ever know what

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UFOs are or aren't like and I'm the

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journey alone and the little nudges

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these phenomena give you and be like

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haha you thought you knew this [\h__\h] you

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yeah that's love that stuff just when

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you think you know something you know

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something creeps around the corner and

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taps you on the shoulder and says hey

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I'm over here come look at me so I love

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it I love it

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it's sobering to think we may never know

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what's out there but I know a lot of the

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stories we're gonna talk about tonight a

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lot of these people probably will never

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know what actually happened to them so I

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am stoked to do this with you we've got

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some really good stuff lined up we do we

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do before we do that though I gotta tell

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you what I am drinking yes all right

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this is the thousand stars Pilsner from

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alewife Brewing Company in the Bronx I

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went all the way up to the Bronx to get

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this one so this is gonna be that's bold

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man no little little white boy going up

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into the Bronx it could be a tough

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neighborhood man especially if you're

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wearing a New York Mets hat in Yankee

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he grew up on Long Island and every now

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and then we'd go back down to Brooklyn

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visit the family and yeah I learned

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pretty quick you don't wear Mets hat

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down nope and vice-versa I live in

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Queens I live about maybe 25 minutes

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from Citi Field and it's the same here

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man you you got a Yankees hat on

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anywhere in a 5-mile radius and and that

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hats going down the gutter I can tell

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you that much oh yeah it's always fun

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when they have the other Subway Series

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here too my dad comes to town and you

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know we'll we'll be on our way to the

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Yankees game and I'll bust out all my

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Mets stuff and nobody you can't be seen

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with that what do you think that's what

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happens when you grow up in a Yankees

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family and then turn to the one of the

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worst teams in history the Mets not so

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much the season but um no no this season

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this is the

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Home Run Derby season because just

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everybody slamming them so I know man it

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brings me back to like the McGuire days

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and Sammy Sosa I'm like all right what

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who's who's taking steroids let's look

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at this again we got to do another

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investigation like our entire team our

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entire teams just using right now yeah

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yeah yeah it's crazy it's like the the

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late 90s all over again it is well I'm

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sure we could do a whole episode on

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baseball - but that's not what our

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audience is here for so I guess we

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should talk a little bit UFOs how's that

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sound that sounds good man

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awesome well we're gonna start with the

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most popular thing going on in UFO

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conversations right now no I'm not

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talking about Tom DeLonge I am talking

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about hashtag storm area 51 let's get

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the [\h__\h] out of the way early what do

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you think of all this Rob what do you

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think is going to happen not happen what

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are your suggestions to anyone out there

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who's planning on go into this storm

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area 51 on September 20th I honestly

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think this is the dumbest thing that I

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have ever heard and like this went from

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being a joke very quickly to something

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serious and then it became like a First

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Amendment's right thing and now it's

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let's just try to pop off with the

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festival or something or two or three

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it's free I think we're up to three now

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yeah it's very unorganized my advice

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would be to let let's just avoid this

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this year and next year why don't we

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take a year to plan this out so you know

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you can find a good location where

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people you know want to host it and not

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Rachel Nevada how many people live in

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Rachel Nevada dude it's not even like a

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town they call it a jon ship because

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there's so few people I don't know I

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couldn't tell you but I could tell you

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every single one of those people don't

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want you coming there no no and I'm

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pretty sure most of the people in the

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outlying areas don't want it either just

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because most of them are very small

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so it's not it's not it's not you know

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very good place to host something like

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that yeah I would agree I mean they're

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expecting thousands of people to show up

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and that's just you know that's just a

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like honestly nobody knows how many

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people are gonna show up to any of these

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three events I think it's alien stock

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piece stock or some [\h__\h] and then

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we've got storm area 51 base camp which

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Jeremy Korbel is working on and of

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course anyone who knows our show or

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knows area 51 Jeremy Korbel is now

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forever intrinsically linked to that

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whether you like it or not a lot of

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people don't but um right I gotta hand

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the guys some props I talked to him a

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couple weeks ago and he is trying to

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make this thing as safe as educational

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and as worth people's time going out

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there but I do agree with you if you're

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gonna do something like this

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if you're coordinating any sort of thing

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that's expecting this many people take a

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year to figure this [\h__\h] out you know it

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happened it blew up and of course you

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know people are gonna take advantage of

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that and get something going but this

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this could potentially be really

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dangerous just think you know out of

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maybe a thousand people show up then

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that's being generous 1% of those people

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are going to actually be in not good

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state of mind and they're actually gonna

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try to storm those gates I guarantee it

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I get it yeah there's gonna be some

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[\h__\h] who wants that YouTube video or

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that Instagram photo of them on the

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other side of the gate or you know

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Naruto running towards whatever the hell

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they expect to see dude there's no

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building within like 10 miles of the

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actual game so good luck with that

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there's gonna be no photos or videos

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because they will be confiscated they

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will be taken down if you put them up

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it's just because it I mean it's a

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classified military base there's no way

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that you're gonna be able to keep that

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for one and and you may be lucky if you

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get to keep your life because we already

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had one guy try to storm area

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what 331 something

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like that and he paid for it with his

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life so yeah we brought that up I think

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on our last UFO happy hour it happened

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like the day before or something yeah

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yeah that's scary I mean that's the [\h__\h]

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that happens you get shot dead no I mean

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I know I know that the security at the

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base is they're well-equipped for this

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sort of thing I don't care if you have a

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thousand two thousand four thousand

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people storm in that gate they will stop

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you they have every right to and they

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have every resource to do that this is a

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black budget high classified military

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installation they have more money than

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any military base you can possibly think

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of so you know they're gonna be doing

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everything I was talking to someone

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recently who said they've got like these

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this technology that can make you sick

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to your stomach and link immediately

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when you get to a certain area they can

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shut down your phones with like the

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click of a button we're not talking like

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shooting people in the head left and

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right like a total firefight going on

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we're talking some of the most high-tech

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ways of securing the base which needs to

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be secured this is a great fence base

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they are doing these things there for a

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reason whether you think there's aliens

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there or not like this is some serious

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[\h__\h] and I think a lot of people don't

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really realize that right and if you

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really honestly want to know what's that

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area 51 there's a couple of sources we

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could send you to one go read any

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Jacobson's book about it it's pretty

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well in depth and it pretty much lays it

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out secondly the History Channel

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actually produced a documentary about

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Lockheed Martin in their skunk works

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program and that's basically what was

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out there they developed u2 they

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developed the f-117 they developed the

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sr-71 all out there that's what that

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base was designed for I mean the

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fascinating enough I mean yeah I mean

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they literally put it in a place that is

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adjacent to atomic testing I mean I

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wouldn't want to go out there

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oh man that's another thing I think

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people don't realize is there have been

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so much so many bombs blown up out there

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that I wouldn't even want to get close

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to that area and I did people are gonna

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see it tomorrow night actually see me at

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the gates of area 51 once this episode

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airs and I can tell you right now I'm a

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little scared I might grow an extra arm

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I don't know man everybody everybody

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we're gonna need you to keep an eye on

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Ryan just like make sure that he's okay

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make sure that you know he's not turning

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any weird colors or you know he's not

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like you know hulking out here like

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Bruce Banner

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I wish man yeah yeah those days are over

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muscular Ryan is gone replaced by a nice

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doughy Doughboy over here which that's

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what unemployment gets you I was

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unemployed once for two years it was not

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fun yeah yeah for anyone listening I did

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lose my job temporarily I'm going back

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to work soon but that's why I have the

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time to do these fun episodes of the Rob

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so god bless the economy for failing me

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anyways yeesh moving on so I gotta ask

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you before we move on Rob with this

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whole storm area 51 stuff do you think

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this is gonna help or harm the UFO field

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if there is a UFO field or the UFO

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community does this help us or hinder us

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I don't think it does either I think

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it's just this is something that's kind

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of slipped through the cracks it's

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really a joke and I don't see really any

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sides of the UFO community with the

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exception of Jeremy Korbel himself

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really contributing to this like if you

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talk to most ufologists they'll tell you

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that this is absolutely dumb and you

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know they're not really giving it the

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time of day that most of the people that

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are interested in this are just your

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average joes it like it feels like

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people are haunted by the fact that

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Woodstock did not take place this year

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so we're gonna do something else we need

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some other stock to happen and there

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seems to be

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only way to do it but that's a good

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point you know I think the UFO community

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quote-unquote they're actually smart

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enough to not go to this thing because

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they know what could happen if you know

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they're and they also know that there's

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nothing out there I mean leaving Las

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Vegas it's like an hour-and-a-half drive

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just to get to that gate and I got lost

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man I got lost in an hour and a half

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into the drive had to turn around go all

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the way back to the little alien and get

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directions and I almost ran out of gas

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on the way there so I could be still out

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there deserted dead in the middle of the

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desert if I if I didn't have other

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people out there to make sure that

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didn't happen but everyone going out

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there I don't think they're prepared for

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this man it's a long-ass trek just to

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get out there so yeah yeah yeah whatever

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whatever is gonna happen on September

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20th I'm interested to see how this all

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plays out I have a feeling it's gonna be

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a dud to be completely honest and again

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Jeremy Korbel is a friend but I just

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think this is way over the heads of

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everyone involved including Maddy

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Roberts the kid who started all this

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thing you know and God bless him he's

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trying he's trying to spin this into

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some positive fun thing but I think just

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like it was a surprise to him that this

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thing went viral it's gonna be surprised

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at how hard it is to pull something off

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with these expectations of thousands of

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people coming to Rachel Nevada

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especially when the people do not want

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them there it's it is it's Woodstock all

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over again you know what I think people

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should do I think people should protest

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this by reading about the Betty and

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Barney Hill abduction because it's the

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same time this is it's the anniversary

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could read about it folks absolutely

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that is such a good point I think they

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just had the Exeter UFO festival yeah

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yeah that is such a good point I know

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you've covered Betty and Barney Hill

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extensively on your show so please I I

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hope people will definitely take your

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advice on that but Rob I want to get to

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some of the stuff you got going on it

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are straight skies is that cool oh yeah

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man so this one literally made me

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laughs out loud when I heard you were

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right in this a recent blog you wrote at

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your website it is called don't go to

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the greys for your gift wrapping needs

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so could you maybe tell us what the

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running theme of this post is and maybe

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a few examples of what you mean by this

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man

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sure so last year I did an episode that

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was an overview of the abduction

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phenomenon I did it with my good friend

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rich Adams screenwriter of the Mothman

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Prophecies and we started talking about

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how sometimes aliens for lack of a

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better term [\h__\h] up when they're doing

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something they mess up you know bringing

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a person back sometimes people will be

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brought back a mile or two away from

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where they were abducted there's a

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supposedly one story that was told to a

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researcher named John s carpenter that

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one person was returned 20 miles away

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from where they were abducted in a

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nearby town yeah but I mean in in Travis

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Waltons case he was I think a couple

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miles away from the screams National

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Forest the it gets more you know

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nefarious from there sometimes these

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aliens will take personal items from

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people there are some experiences that

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report that they have they have jewelry

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missing some have reported that

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apparently some greys have a thing for

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nightgowns apparently this one guy told

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John Carpenter that he had to keep

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replacing his wife's nightgowns because

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he was afraid that she would be seen by

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the neighbors floating outside in the

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air that you know completely naked wow

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that's a that's a possessive husband

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right there I guess yeah you know he's

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doing good work sometimes when the

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aliens bring people back they bring them

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back

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put them in the wrong place not just

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smiles away but just like in the wrong

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central location so Terry Lovelace

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reported that during the actual devil

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stand abduction when they brought him

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back

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the aliens placed him near their car

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when in fact they actually abducted him

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from their tent so the aliens had to

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come back and move them back into the

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tents whoops

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and if you read John Mack's abduction

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there's this brief little tidbit in

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there about this guy who's researching

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an abduction and apparently these two

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people were abducted at the same time

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from two different cars when they were

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returned they were returned to the wrong

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car each of them saw each other on the

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highway as they were driving past each

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other and the aliens had to come back

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really manned put them in the right cars

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oh that just gave me chills actually

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could you imagine like driving down the

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road and seeing your your own vehicle

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being driven by someone else yeah yeah

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it's weird and creepy where the si gets

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its title from is the account of a woman

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named Carol den Hamm and she was in

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abductor she lived I must say in

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Massachusetts I think and basically she

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had had experiences her entire life this

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was in January of like 92 91 92

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somewhere around there and she had gone

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to a company Christmas party she was

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returning and with her in her truck she

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was returning to a farm that she worked

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on she had this gift raft package of

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cookies and lake fruitcake and she

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recognized the signs that she was about

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to get abducted and in one moment you

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know there was just a sprite light and

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in the next moment she's in her cab

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everything's all messed up and then

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there's papers all over the cab of the

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truck and she looks down at the package

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and she realizes that it's been poorly

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rewrapped by the grace it sounds like me

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at Chris

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I used to volunteer at our mall to wrap

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presents and people would just be like

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uh I think I'll go somewhere else

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Wow that's see this is this is what's

536
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amazing to me and I'm so glad that you

537
00:23:52,070 --> 00:23:50,039
were able to like cherry pick all these

538
00:23:54,590 --> 00:23:52,080
stories out of different abduction

539
00:23:57,259 --> 00:23:54,600
researchers work because the they happen

540
00:23:59,240 --> 00:23:57,269
I mean we know people have been returned

541
00:24:02,659 --> 00:23:59,250
in different clothes that weren't theirs

542
00:24:05,539 --> 00:24:02,669
or clothes were inside out and just like

543
00:24:09,379 --> 00:24:05,549
small things like that it's it's so

544
00:24:12,049 --> 00:24:09,389
interesting yeah and I mean there are

545
00:24:14,930 --> 00:24:12,059
things that aliens seem to be puzzled by

546
00:24:17,360 --> 00:24:14,940
that you know to the average person like

547
00:24:20,180 --> 00:24:17,370
are really everyday items that we use

548
00:24:22,580 --> 00:24:20,190
like there's one situation in which the

549
00:24:25,370 --> 00:24:22,590
aliens bringing back this one woman

550
00:24:29,029 --> 00:24:25,380
didn't understand how the blankets on

551
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:29,039
her bed were used hmm so they just

552
00:24:35,990 --> 00:24:31,970
draped them around her neck oh my god

553
00:24:38,149 --> 00:24:36,000
the funny thing was is that she was at

554
00:24:39,860 --> 00:24:38,159
this UFO conference and her roommate was

555
00:24:42,139 --> 00:24:39,870
in the room with her and she watched the

556
00:24:44,629 --> 00:24:42,149
whole thing and she's just talking about

557
00:24:48,769 --> 00:24:44,639
like they seem confused and frustrated

558
00:24:51,110 --> 00:24:48,779
by how the blankets right yet they can

559
00:24:52,879 --> 00:24:51,120
travel you know hundreds of millions of

560
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:52,889
light-years to get to our planet but

561
00:24:58,789 --> 00:24:54,690
that's what always fascinates me with

562
00:25:01,100 --> 00:24:58,799
these conundrums of the greys yeah it

563
00:25:03,950 --> 00:25:01,110
almost really makes them kind of human

564
00:25:06,740 --> 00:25:03,960
just yeah don't understand how things

565
00:25:07,220 --> 00:25:06,750
work but you know we'll give it our best

566
00:25:09,740 --> 00:25:07,230
shot

567
00:25:12,230 --> 00:25:09,750
right right I mean it's kind of like you

568
00:25:14,690 --> 00:25:12,240
know I'm I'm good at some stuff and I'm

569
00:25:17,360 --> 00:25:14,700
completely horrible at others I mean you

570
00:25:19,580 --> 00:25:17,370
asked me to add two and two and I'm

571
00:25:23,330 --> 00:25:19,590
clueless but you want me to write a

572
00:25:25,340 --> 00:25:23,340
soliloquy of Shakespearean you know

573
00:25:28,639 --> 00:25:25,350
dialogue I'll do it I'll do it for you

574
00:25:31,070 --> 00:25:28,649
like on the spot so you know it's just

575
00:25:33,799 --> 00:25:31,080
like humans we all have our own set of

576
00:25:35,539 --> 00:25:33,809
skills and traits so maybe the greys are

577
00:25:37,730 --> 00:25:35,549
the same we think of them as these drone

578
00:25:38,750 --> 00:25:37,740
like things but maybe they're more human

579
00:25:41,450 --> 00:25:38,760
than we think

580
00:25:44,570 --> 00:25:41,460
maybe you know maybe lends credence to

581
00:25:47,210 --> 00:25:44,580
this these theories that you know these

582
00:25:50,169 --> 00:25:47,220
are humans from the future and like this

583
00:25:53,470 --> 00:25:50,179
not something this is an old idea

584
00:25:56,899 --> 00:25:53,480
because if you go back into the late

585
00:25:58,520 --> 00:25:56,909
1800s there were people postulating what

586
00:26:01,940 --> 00:25:58,530
the humans of the future would look like

587
00:26:05,539 --> 00:26:01,950
and a lot of them had really bulbous

588
00:26:08,570 --> 00:26:05,549
heads and some of them kind of walked on

589
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:08,580
you know four legs almost kind of

590
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:11,250
reverting to like the the man and the

591
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:14,010
trees and kind of stuff like that but if

592
00:26:17,120 --> 00:26:15,330
you do look at that

593
00:26:20,090 --> 00:26:17,130
there's an interesting account I can't

594
00:26:23,029 --> 00:26:20,100
remember the guys name but he wrote this

595
00:26:25,940 --> 00:26:23,039
account after being in a coma for a few

596
00:26:27,950 --> 00:26:25,950
years and he talked about seeing man in

597
00:26:33,049 --> 00:26:27,960
the future and kind of looked a little

598
00:26:36,230 --> 00:26:33,059
bit like the Grace HG Wells also kind of

599
00:26:37,100 --> 00:26:36,240
toyed with this idea in a satirical work

600
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:37,110
called

601
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:40,530
Man of the Year million and a few Google

602
00:26:44,690 --> 00:26:42,690
pictures of what man of the year million

603
00:26:47,930 --> 00:26:44,700
looked like kind of looks like a gray on

604
00:26:50,390 --> 00:26:47,940
all fours there is there's a an incident

605
00:26:52,010 --> 00:26:50,400
I came across Rob this one's pretty

606
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:52,020
funny this comes from Mike Lowen the owl

607
00:26:56,419 --> 00:26:54,450
guy do you know Mike's work I do know

608
00:27:00,080 --> 00:26:56,429
Mike's work yes yeah he lives not too

609
00:27:02,360 --> 00:27:00,090
far from you actually he lives the the

610
00:27:05,350 --> 00:27:02,370
doctors in is in my hometown oh yeah I

611
00:27:08,270 --> 00:27:05,360
think you mentioned that yeah yeah it's

612
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:08,280
yeah and then you know some aliens

613
00:27:12,710 --> 00:27:09,690
showed up there or you were there one

614
00:27:15,649 --> 00:27:12,720
weekend and you know my hometown has

615
00:27:20,779 --> 00:27:15,659
never been the same since sorry about

616
00:27:23,120 --> 00:27:20,789
that I'll never return will Mike told in

617
00:27:26,690 --> 00:27:23,130
his first book the messengers this

618
00:27:29,899 --> 00:27:26,700
really funny story almost heartwarming

619
00:27:32,419 --> 00:27:29,909
where a woman a multiple abductee she

620
00:27:33,649 --> 00:27:32,429
been abducted all her life she was you

621
00:27:35,539 --> 00:27:33,659
know putting her kids to bed one night

622
00:27:37,310 --> 00:27:35,549
and getting ready to go to sleep and

623
00:27:40,370 --> 00:27:37,320
she's on the ground level of her house

624
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:40,380
and she looks out the window and she

625
00:27:47,299 --> 00:27:43,530
sees a gray staring at her from the

626
00:27:49,279 --> 00:27:47,309
window and the gray runs away from the

627
00:27:52,159 --> 00:27:49,289
window she can see it like running away

628
00:27:56,120 --> 00:27:52,169
so she goes outside and she's like hey I

629
00:27:59,120 --> 00:27:56,130
see you and the gray turns around looks

630
00:28:00,980 --> 00:27:59,130
at her and not telepathically like she

631
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:00,990
could see its mouth moving and it just

632
00:28:07,190 --> 00:28:04,290
goes owl owl owl owl owl owl it was

633
00:28:11,150 --> 00:28:07,200
trying to screen memory itself into an

634
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:11,160
owl couldn't do it she's staring at this

635
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:13,170
gray outside and it's just looking at

636
00:28:18,620 --> 00:28:17,010
her going ow ow ow ow could it do it for

637
00:28:20,660 --> 00:28:18,630
some reason it could not implant this

638
00:28:22,310 --> 00:28:20,670
screen memory into her head of what

639
00:28:25,340 --> 00:28:22,320
you're looking at is actually an owl not

640
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:25,350
a gray alien so I mean that gray [\h__\h]

641
00:28:30,169 --> 00:28:27,330
up probably got demoted that day and

642
00:28:32,810 --> 00:28:30,179
didn't get to do the abduction so yeah

643
00:28:35,390 --> 00:28:32,820
you know he's probably one of those

644
00:28:36,799 --> 00:28:35,400
crazed that's you know just hanging

645
00:28:39,380 --> 00:28:36,809
around waiting to do something around

646
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:39,390
the table or something right right oh

647
00:28:49,310 --> 00:28:47,250
let me please let me try let me try I

648
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:49,320
hope he was able to finally scream

649
00:28:52,340 --> 00:28:50,850
memory someone abduct them and

650
00:28:58,130 --> 00:28:52,350
traumatize them for the rest of their

651
00:29:00,380 --> 00:28:58,140
lives yeah that's all you can ask for in

652
00:29:01,910 --> 00:29:00,390
an alien abduction really I know I know

653
00:29:04,549 --> 00:29:01,920
and I know we're making light of it but

654
00:29:06,049 --> 00:29:04,559
I do you know have all the empathy in

655
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:06,059
the world for people who suffer these

656
00:29:14,330 --> 00:29:10,890
experiences but absolutely is yelling

657
00:29:17,060 --> 00:29:14,340
owl at you yeah you you can't help but

658
00:29:19,250 --> 00:29:17,070
laugh when aliens just screw up exactly

659
00:29:21,230 --> 00:29:19,260
well I know you have a bunch of other

660
00:29:23,780 --> 00:29:21,240
examples in that article so I definitely

661
00:29:25,850 --> 00:29:23,790
suggest people check out that one over

662
00:29:29,150 --> 00:29:25,860
at your website our strange skies calm

663
00:29:31,430 --> 00:29:29,160
all right man so let's move on to your

664
00:29:34,549 --> 00:29:31,440
one of your latest episodes that I was

665
00:29:36,830 --> 00:29:34,559
listening to titled harm from above part

666
00:29:39,530 --> 00:29:36,840
one this is great we're gonna get a part

667
00:29:42,590 --> 00:29:39,540
two which you cover why UFOs may be

668
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:42,600
hostile and you gave a few examples so

669
00:29:45,919 --> 00:29:44,130
some wonder and maybe what you might

670
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:45,929
teasing a little of this episode for us

671
00:29:53,630 --> 00:29:49,970
so I've been on a Brazil kick lately

672
00:29:56,750 --> 00:29:53,640
mostly because their cases are so out of

673
00:30:00,860 --> 00:29:56,760
the norm for most countries like you

674
00:30:03,700 --> 00:30:00,870
talk about people seeing humanoids are

675
00:30:07,430 --> 00:30:03,710
just having a random encounter well in

676
00:30:11,450 --> 00:30:07,440
1977 UFOs and Brazil started to get a

677
00:30:14,540 --> 00:30:11,460
little violent and they coined a term

678
00:30:17,750 --> 00:30:14,550
for them called the cheapest now you

679
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:17,760
may know about these a little bit if

680
00:30:21,890 --> 00:30:20,130
you've read hunt for the skinwalker they

681
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:21,900
get kind of a little mentioned because

682
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:27,330
on the ranch I think it was mrs. Sherman

683
00:30:34,220 --> 00:30:30,930
who had the encounter with the the

684
00:30:36,620 --> 00:30:34,230
box-like UFO out there or might have

685
00:30:38,450 --> 00:30:36,630
been Terri I can't remember exactly but

686
00:30:40,340 --> 00:30:38,460
they talked about the to possess and

687
00:30:43,490 --> 00:30:40,350
they talked about how some of them were

688
00:30:48,770 --> 00:30:43,500
these rectangular or square like objects

689
00:30:52,460 --> 00:30:48,780
and the people of in northern Brazil

690
00:30:56,150 --> 00:30:52,470
ended up undergoing this intense flap

691
00:30:59,780 --> 00:30:56,160
with UFOs that would shoot beams down at

692
00:31:01,730 --> 00:30:59,790
them and would cause them all sorts of

693
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:01,740
bodily injuries sometime there would be

694
00:31:09,380 --> 00:31:05,850
skin lesions people would feel nauseous

695
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:09,390
dizzy sometimes

696
00:31:15,260 --> 00:31:12,810
they would I think just blackout a lot

697
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:15,270
of physical symptoms in response to

698
00:31:22,340 --> 00:31:19,130
these but there were very few occupants

699
00:31:26,090 --> 00:31:22,350
seen some of them were like very strange

700
00:31:28,490 --> 00:31:26,100
there was one person who saw a man and a

701
00:31:30,860 --> 00:31:28,500
woman just flying in this weird-looking

702
00:31:32,990 --> 00:31:30,870
cylinder and in another one there was a

703
00:31:36,470 --> 00:31:33,000
very strange-looking humanoid that

704
00:31:38,660 --> 00:31:36,480
floated out of a one of these cheapest

705
00:31:44,210 --> 00:31:38,670
you're gonna get that in part two and

706
00:31:46,610 --> 00:31:44,220
was checking out a boat but the mo yeah

707
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:46,620
most of the time it fit this pattern and

708
00:31:53,780 --> 00:31:51,210
this was seen by countless people like

709
00:31:56,740 --> 00:31:53,790
we're talking in the hundreds not only

710
00:32:00,440 --> 00:31:56,750
that this was Brazil's first

711
00:32:02,930 --> 00:32:00,450
government-run study of UFOs and their

712
00:32:05,030 --> 00:32:02,940
investigators experienced them the

713
00:32:08,270 --> 00:32:05,040
doctor that treated the injuries

714
00:32:11,570 --> 00:32:08,280
sustained by these stupas also saw it

715
00:32:14,660 --> 00:32:11,580
and saw them everybody was seeing it so

716
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:14,670
I wanted to cover it because it's a flap

717
00:32:18,860 --> 00:32:16,650
that I think people overlook a lot of

718
00:32:21,170 --> 00:32:18,870
the time there aren't a lot of pods that

719
00:32:25,070 --> 00:32:21,180
I've seen cover them and it's definitely

720
00:32:28,130 --> 00:32:25,080
one that is worthy of its own episode we

721
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:28,140
broke it up into two but I think a lot

722
00:32:32,270 --> 00:32:28,530
of the proud

723
00:32:35,660 --> 00:32:32,280
ms2 where you know antonio vs boa sand

724
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:35,670
the virginia incident there readily

725
00:32:41,540 --> 00:32:38,250
available sources in english you don't

726
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:41,550
have that for Colares because most of

727
00:32:46,730 --> 00:32:44,250
the documents are coming from it was

728
00:32:50,300 --> 00:32:46,740
called the opera cal Prato team so

729
00:32:52,940 --> 00:32:50,310
literally in portuguese its operation

730
00:32:56,420 --> 00:32:52,950
plate because you know it's kind of

731
00:32:58,730 --> 00:32:56,430
tongue-in-cheek for the saucer but if

732
00:33:01,670 --> 00:32:58,740
you want to try and take a crack at

733
00:33:05,180 --> 00:33:01,680
those documents john Greenwald has him

734
00:33:08,030 --> 00:33:05,190
on his website the black vault and is

735
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:08,040
we're talking about to over two thousand

736
00:33:13,220 --> 00:33:11,010
pages of documentation and they the

737
00:33:16,100 --> 00:33:13,230
Brazilian government investigated this

738
00:33:20,150 --> 00:33:16,110
for about a year and a half just writing

739
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:20,160
reports interviewing witnesses gathering

740
00:33:25,730 --> 00:33:22,530
testimony and it really is one of the

741
00:33:31,250 --> 00:33:25,740
best flaps you know something that is on

742
00:33:35,260 --> 00:33:31,260
par with the 73-year the humanoids or

743
00:33:41,060 --> 00:33:35,270
the 65 to 67 flaps in the states or the

744
00:33:43,550 --> 00:33:41,070
54 flap in France and all these yeah

745
00:33:46,220 --> 00:33:43,560
just all these flaps on par with it kind

746
00:33:48,860 --> 00:33:46,230
of just really goes above it it's it's

747
00:33:52,790 --> 00:33:48,870
disturbing to think because I mean you

748
00:33:56,060 --> 00:33:52,800
can you can find reports of her name was

749
00:33:59,150 --> 00:33:56,070
dr. Carvalho she traded like I want to

750
00:34:02,230 --> 00:33:59,160
say about 50 patients so it's a wild one

751
00:34:05,090 --> 00:34:02,240
but definitely check out those episodes

752
00:34:08,510 --> 00:34:05,100
yeah the party will have come out by the

753
00:34:11,830 --> 00:34:08,520
time this episode goes up so it's it's

754
00:34:14,180 --> 00:34:11,840
an interesting it's an interesting flat

755
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:14,190
absolutely man and I mean you know we

756
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:15,810
have so many examples here in the US to

757
00:34:20,810 --> 00:34:18,090
look at like you know Rendlesham look at

758
00:34:22,700 --> 00:34:20,820
the harm that came to to the gentleman

759
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:22,710
there his name's escaping though right

760
00:34:27,919 --> 00:34:25,130
now not Penniston no burr Burroughs

761
00:34:30,290 --> 00:34:27,929
Burroughs yeah man I mean you had to get

762
00:34:32,780 --> 00:34:30,300
like congressional help to get direct

763
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:32,790
out with this thing this like ruined

764
00:34:39,919 --> 00:34:36,450
disheartened this UFO yeah I mean you

765
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:39,929
you look at the the cases in which maybe

766
00:34:44,389 --> 00:34:42,450
the UFOs weren't acting aggressively but

767
00:34:48,020 --> 00:34:44,399
they had negative health effects like

768
00:34:51,190 --> 00:34:48,030
cash Landrum that's an I think of the

769
00:34:54,770 --> 00:34:51,200
name yeah the Falcon Lake incident

770
00:34:59,000 --> 00:34:54,780
Stefan Michalak had all sorts of health

771
00:35:01,569 --> 00:34:59,010
problems after that and he had these

772
00:35:05,180 --> 00:35:01,579
this grid pattern of scars that would

773
00:35:07,849 --> 00:35:05,190
materialize and disappear like every so

774
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:07,859
many months for a while it was I was a

775
00:35:12,380 --> 00:35:09,810
wild one and then there's you know the

776
00:35:14,780 --> 00:35:12,390
other side of that the healings and such

777
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:14,790
yeah so I mean yeah let's do a complete

778
00:35:20,359 --> 00:35:17,130
180 here you go from UFOs that cause

779
00:35:21,950 --> 00:35:20,369
harm to UFOs that are helping people out

780
00:35:24,980 --> 00:35:21,960
and this is another episode of your show

781
00:35:26,750 --> 00:35:24,990
called the UFO miracle so did you tell

782
00:35:32,330 --> 00:35:26,760
us a little about this one like I'd like

783
00:35:36,910 --> 00:35:34,180
[Music]

784
00:35:39,950 --> 00:35:36,920
they've been seen all over our planet

785
00:35:43,430 --> 00:35:39,960
somewhere in the skies I'm talking about

786
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flying saucers hey guys Ryan sprek here

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808
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809
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810
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flying saucer reviews from the mid

811
00:36:59,750 --> 00:36:55,539
sixties

812
00:37:03,660 --> 00:36:59,760
dr. olavo fountas who for a long time

813
00:37:05,430 --> 00:37:03,670
was brazil's like number one UFO

814
00:37:08,549 --> 00:37:05,440
investigator there were a few others but

815
00:37:10,410 --> 00:37:08,559
he was really the one that had the best

816
00:37:13,519 --> 00:37:10,420
resources because he was affiliated with

817
00:37:16,430 --> 00:37:13,529
that bro he had a partnership with a

818
00:37:19,500 --> 00:37:16,440
journalist named Joe Martin's who

819
00:37:22,529 --> 00:37:19,510
published in this magazine called okras

820
00:37:25,380 --> 00:37:22,539
arrow it was it was kind of your average

821
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:25,390
like maybe Look magazine or Time

822
00:37:31,079 --> 00:37:27,210
magazine or something like that and

823
00:37:34,829 --> 00:37:31,089
occasionally he would publish these UFO

824
00:37:37,710 --> 00:37:34,839
accounts and he got he would routinely

825
00:37:40,910 --> 00:37:37,720
get letters and one of them that he got

826
00:37:45,240 --> 00:37:40,920
was from this woman who was a caretaker

827
00:37:48,749 --> 00:37:45,250
to this one man's daughter and she told

828
00:37:51,990 --> 00:37:48,759
the story about how she had I want to

829
00:37:54,539 --> 00:37:52,000
say was like stomach cancer and it was

830
00:37:58,079 --> 00:37:54,549
really painful for as stomach cancer as

831
00:38:01,380 --> 00:37:58,089
and they were pretty much certain that

832
00:38:03,690 --> 00:38:01,390
she was going to die and all of a sudden

833
00:38:06,329 --> 00:38:03,700
they're all gathered around in this one

834
00:38:11,549 --> 00:38:06,339
room they see a bright light outside the

835
00:38:15,089 --> 00:38:11,559
window and there's this UFO and all of a

836
00:38:17,130 --> 00:38:15,099
sudden this doorway opens up and there

837
00:38:18,390 --> 00:38:17,140
are these two beings that float out and

838
00:38:21,359 --> 00:38:18,400
one of them that stands in the doorway

839
00:38:24,150 --> 00:38:21,369
they were short about four feet tall

840
00:38:27,690 --> 00:38:24,160
they came in and they started to perform

841
00:38:29,249 --> 00:38:27,700
an operation on this girl and there

842
00:38:31,769 --> 00:38:29,259
there was another one that was

843
00:38:34,769 --> 00:38:31,779
explaining to the girl's father that you

844
00:38:36,599 --> 00:38:34,779
know you're gonna have to do this after

845
00:38:38,789 --> 00:38:36,609
we leave give her these pills these

846
00:38:40,230 --> 00:38:38,799
these aliens apparently gave her gave

847
00:38:42,630 --> 00:38:40,240
this man pills to give to his daughter

848
00:38:45,990 --> 00:38:42,640
they're like pharmacists yeah pretty

849
00:38:49,529 --> 00:38:46,000
much and according to the letter she was

850
00:38:50,370 --> 00:38:49,539
cured that's he that's I don't know what

851
00:38:53,190 --> 00:38:50,380
to say I mean

852
00:38:57,300 --> 00:38:53,200
it it almost like makes you really

853
00:39:00,300 --> 00:38:57,310
wonder you know maybe some races are

854
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:00,310
here to harm us or to you know deplete

855
00:39:04,020 --> 00:39:01,570
our resources but then you have

856
00:39:05,850 --> 00:39:04,030
situations like this or it's like wow

857
00:39:08,550 --> 00:39:05,860
how else do you take it other than like

858
00:39:09,540 --> 00:39:08,560
a miracle you know you got to wonder how

859
00:39:12,240 --> 00:39:09,550
many people think this could be

860
00:39:17,540 --> 00:39:12,250
something angelic or spiritual even

861
00:39:21,300 --> 00:39:17,550
right and to this woman it looked like a

862
00:39:24,090 --> 00:39:21,310
UFO and aliens getting out and I mean we

863
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:24,100
have other cases of UFO healings there's

864
00:39:31,740 --> 00:39:28,690
a fascinating case from France the case

865
00:39:34,100 --> 00:39:31,750
of a man they called him doctor X they

866
00:39:40,020 --> 00:39:34,110
didn't want to reveal his identity but

867
00:39:43,500 --> 00:39:40,030
one night he is awoken in the middle of

868
00:39:46,020 --> 00:39:43,510
the night his his son wakes him up and

869
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:46,030
he's a little restless and he looks out

870
00:39:50,250 --> 00:39:47,290
the window and he could see like these

871
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:50,260
bright flashes like it's there's like

872
00:39:54,540 --> 00:39:52,210
thunder and lightning out there except

873
00:39:57,690 --> 00:39:54,550
there's no thunder there's just these

874
00:40:00,240 --> 00:39:57,700
flashes of light and he goes to this

875
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:00,250
picture window see these two UFOs that

876
00:40:04,290 --> 00:40:02,410
keep dropping beams down and they're

877
00:40:07,530 --> 00:40:04,300
flying parallel to each other

878
00:40:11,910 --> 00:40:07,540
and at one point they just come together

879
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:11,920
and they form one big huge UFO this UFO

880
00:40:16,740 --> 00:40:14,290
comes towards the window where the

881
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:16,750
doctors standing the doctor has all

882
00:40:21,990 --> 00:40:18,370
these health problems some of them

883
00:40:24,540 --> 00:40:22,000
stemming from World War two and I I

884
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:24,550
think one was sustained after falling

885
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:26,290
off a ladder he couldn't walk very well

886
00:40:33,090 --> 00:40:28,690
I think he had like blood clot and his

887
00:40:34,650 --> 00:40:33,100
legs and stuff like that well he after

888
00:40:36,900 --> 00:40:34,660
this incident he gets up the next

889
00:40:40,860 --> 00:40:36,910
morning finds out that you know he's

890
00:40:43,050 --> 00:40:40,870
walking just fine seems to be healed at

891
00:40:45,420 --> 00:40:43,060
one point he gets a message that these

892
00:40:49,230 --> 00:40:45,430
aliens are gonna return after he falls

893
00:40:51,540 --> 00:40:49,240
down a small set of stairs he falls down

894
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:51,550
the set of stairs the UFO does return

895
00:40:58,710 --> 00:40:56,170
and apparently this man has interactions

896
00:41:01,790 --> 00:40:58,720
with this UFO and supposedly alien

897
00:41:04,140 --> 00:41:01,800
beings for the majority of his life but

898
00:41:06,930 --> 00:41:04,150
at certain points

899
00:41:09,900 --> 00:41:06,940
he and his son would get this triangular

900
00:41:13,230 --> 00:41:09,910
shaped red mark that would appear on

901
00:41:15,839 --> 00:41:13,240
their abdomen every so often so yeah

902
00:41:18,269 --> 00:41:15,849
that's a that's one fascinating case

903
00:41:21,809 --> 00:41:18,279
I'll do an episode on that at some point

904
00:41:24,299 --> 00:41:21,819
but yeah it's that's another one they

905
00:41:26,339 --> 00:41:24,309
these these healings every now and then

906
00:41:30,690 --> 00:41:26,349
are very strange there's another one

907
00:41:35,309 --> 00:41:30,700
in 1951 it's called the Georgia stocks

908
00:41:38,359 --> 00:41:35,319
case and this pilot was flying and he

909
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:38,369
had made contact with the UFO and

910
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:41,770
instead of falling to the ground this

911
00:41:46,730 --> 00:41:44,410
this UFO brought him on board they

912
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:46,740
apparently diagnosed him with cancer and

913
00:41:53,519 --> 00:41:50,170
they cured his cancer on board he wakes

914
00:41:55,710 --> 00:41:53,529
up a short while later on the ground

915
00:41:58,230 --> 00:41:55,720
outside near the wreckage of his plane

916
00:42:06,180 --> 00:41:58,240
but unfortunately he dies a year later

917
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:06,190
for nothing yeah that is just like irony

918
00:42:09,329 --> 00:42:07,930
and its finest I don't even know what to

919
00:42:14,990 --> 00:42:09,339
say to that I need to take a sip of my

920
00:42:19,950 --> 00:42:18,150
wow man well I mean if you look at

921
00:42:22,620 --> 00:42:19,960
something like the Carlos Taylor Santos

922
00:42:25,019 --> 00:42:22,630
case where UFOs collided with a dudes

923
00:42:27,420 --> 00:42:25,029
plane they make him go into like a

924
00:42:29,940 --> 00:42:27,430
downward spiral and then they safely

925
00:42:32,579 --> 00:42:29,950
guide him to like an area where he can

926
00:42:35,130 --> 00:42:32,589
land safely so you got a wander look at

927
00:42:36,930 --> 00:42:35,140
Travis Walton - you know hit with the

928
00:42:39,150 --> 00:42:36,940
beam might have killed them who knows

929
00:42:41,279 --> 00:42:39,160
and then they bring him on board to fix

930
00:42:44,549 --> 00:42:41,289
him up that's what he says at least so

931
00:42:47,190 --> 00:42:44,559
you gotta wonder well yeah cuz I mean

932
00:42:49,260 --> 00:42:47,200
like it didn't seem like those aliens

933
00:42:51,059 --> 00:42:49,270
were touching down in that field to

934
00:42:53,940 --> 00:42:51,069
abduct anybody it seemed like they were

935
00:42:55,140 --> 00:42:53,950
having some kind of mechanical problems

936
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:55,150
because they were just like kind of

937
00:43:00,029 --> 00:42:57,010
floating up and down in this field and

938
00:43:02,430 --> 00:43:00,039
then you got some young brash idiot that

939
00:43:04,289 --> 00:43:02,440
decides to come over and it gets hit

940
00:43:07,710 --> 00:43:04,299
with a blue beam of light uh well we got

941
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:07,720
to fix them yep and now we forever have

942
00:43:12,299 --> 00:43:09,970
that abduction scene planted into our

943
00:43:15,210 --> 00:43:12,309
heads for the rest of eternity yeah that

944
00:43:17,930 --> 00:43:15,220
thing gives me nightmares it does it

945
00:43:20,060 --> 00:43:17,940
really does especially when you see

946
00:43:22,630 --> 00:43:20,070
Mike Rogers illustration of the first

947
00:43:25,220 --> 00:43:22,640
aliens that he comes into contact with

948
00:43:28,070 --> 00:43:25,230
yeah they're very strange I think

949
00:43:30,740 --> 00:43:28,080
they're I think the their eyes in the

950
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:30,750
way that their pupils and their brown

951
00:43:34,910 --> 00:43:32,970
eyes are kind of freaked me out more

952
00:43:37,609 --> 00:43:34,920
than anything not to mention the fact

953
00:43:40,339 --> 00:43:37,619
that he like painted them with these

954
00:43:41,630 --> 00:43:40,349
like Stern expressions I'm like I think

955
00:43:44,210 --> 00:43:41,640
they were a little more emotive than

956
00:43:47,060 --> 00:43:44,220
that but okay yeah yeah you do have to

957
00:43:50,150 --> 00:43:47,070
wonder hey artist interpretation yeah

958
00:43:52,790 --> 00:43:50,160
pretty much and I mean yeah I mean it's

959
00:43:55,370 --> 00:43:52,800
you know Mike Rogers he got brought into

960
00:43:57,589 --> 00:43:55,380
all this mess anyway so yeah is he the

961
00:43:59,900 --> 00:43:57,599
one Rob I don't know if you know one of

962
00:44:02,960 --> 00:43:59,910
them like goes out to the site now all

963
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:02,970
the time and like is begging and waiting

964
00:44:06,349 --> 00:44:05,010
to be taken I don't think it's Mike

965
00:44:10,670 --> 00:44:06,359
Rogers I think it's one of the other

966
00:44:13,730 --> 00:44:10,680
guys yeah well I mean like I don't even

967
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:13,740
know what it would be like to be in that

968
00:44:20,210 --> 00:44:17,810
kind of situation to be a bystander to

969
00:44:23,510 --> 00:44:20,220
how that would affect you your entire

970
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:23,520
life I mean we know that guys like

971
00:44:29,300 --> 00:44:25,530
Phillip ass I call him that

972
00:44:32,450 --> 00:44:29,310
you know like tried to [\h__\h] ruin some

973
00:44:36,589 --> 00:44:32,460
lives there not to mention that just

974
00:44:38,720 --> 00:44:36,599
seeing something like that just like

975
00:44:41,720 --> 00:44:38,730
what kind of existential crisis will

976
00:44:45,770 --> 00:44:41,730
that create in some people I can only

977
00:44:48,589 --> 00:44:45,780
imagine right and to you know have such

978
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:48,599
confidence in one another and loyalty to

979
00:44:54,109 --> 00:44:51,930
stick to the story and meanwhile your

980
00:44:56,750 --> 00:44:54,119
your life is just going into a downward

981
00:45:00,410 --> 00:44:56,760
spiral of like you know being involved

982
00:45:02,570 --> 00:45:00,420
with this UFO case you gotta wonder and

983
00:45:05,359 --> 00:45:02,580
all these guys stick to it to this day

984
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:05,369
even if it did ruin their life so know

985
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:07,650
even though Travis was the one taken

986
00:45:12,349 --> 00:45:10,530
they all suffered because of this and

987
00:45:14,720 --> 00:45:12,359
they all had their own existential

988
00:45:18,020 --> 00:45:14,730
crisis I would believe crisis of faith

989
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:18,030
belief and the fact that one of them is

990
00:45:21,890 --> 00:45:19,770
going out there begging to be taken I

991
00:45:23,839 --> 00:45:21,900
guess I can understand like he wants

992
00:45:26,240 --> 00:45:23,849
confirmation that the [\h__\h] actually

993
00:45:30,020 --> 00:45:26,250
happened in that the way his life went

994
00:45:31,220 --> 00:45:30,030
is maybe worth it I don't know right I

995
00:45:33,140 --> 00:45:31,230
mean like

996
00:45:36,620 --> 00:45:33,150
you know Travis Walton was literally

997
00:45:40,010 --> 00:45:36,630
taken these guys were taken in other

998
00:45:43,430 --> 00:45:40,020
ways so you know that that will

999
00:45:45,950 --> 00:45:43,440
definitely affect you yeah well you know

1000
00:45:47,930 --> 00:45:45,960
not to get too sad again but this one

1001
00:45:51,170 --> 00:45:47,940
dude broke my heart when I heard about

1002
00:45:54,589 --> 00:45:51,180
this a rejected abductee

1003
00:45:56,359 --> 00:45:54,599
so you know we have UFO occupants that

1004
00:45:57,920 --> 00:45:56,369
are harmful sometimes helpful and

1005
00:46:00,230 --> 00:45:57,930
sometimes they simply are just doing

1006
00:46:02,539 --> 00:46:00,240
their job and quality control seems to

1007
00:46:04,809 --> 00:46:02,549
be a big part of that so could you maybe

1008
00:46:11,720 --> 00:46:04,819
tell us a little about this poor bastard

1009
00:46:15,319 --> 00:46:11,730
Alberto Alberto he oh my gosh she's God

1010
00:46:18,049 --> 00:46:15,329
loved this guy he he was knight-fish

1011
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:18,059
nice in this place called the passing

1012
00:46:23,329 --> 00:46:20,490
stroke canal this this canal was

1013
00:46:25,819 --> 00:46:23,339
essentially built in the late 1700s in

1014
00:46:29,589 --> 00:46:25,829
England to kind of introduced

1015
00:46:33,380 --> 00:46:29,599
agriculture all along this canal way and

1016
00:46:35,630 --> 00:46:33,390
it kind of went out of commission not

1017
00:46:37,940 --> 00:46:35,640
long after maybe 40 years after it was

1018
00:46:41,180 --> 00:46:37,950
built and it went through different

1019
00:46:43,609 --> 00:46:41,190
stages the military used it for training

1020
00:46:47,030 --> 00:46:43,619
during World War one and to bring

1021
00:46:49,130 --> 00:46:47,040
supplies up and down but a lot of people

1022
00:46:51,500 --> 00:46:49,140
used it for recreational fishing and

1023
00:46:56,510 --> 00:46:51,510
boating and such and one of those people

1024
00:47:00,250 --> 00:46:56,520
was Alfred Berto and in 1983 you know

1025
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:00,260
were in we're approaching the height of

1026
00:47:07,190 --> 00:47:04,130
you know abductions in pop culture where

1027
00:47:09,470 --> 00:47:07,200
at least in the UFO community we're

1028
00:47:11,750 --> 00:47:09,480
getting to that level and Alfred Berto

1029
00:47:14,390 --> 00:47:11,760
decides he's gonna go night fishing

1030
00:47:17,690 --> 00:47:14,400
something that he did every so often and

1031
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:17,700
he was 77 years old at the time brought

1032
00:47:24,170 --> 00:47:20,490
his dog tiny with him and he settles in

1033
00:47:27,650 --> 00:47:24,180
at around 1:00 a.m. it's got his line

1034
00:47:29,630 --> 00:47:27,660
out there he takes a swig of tea and he

1035
00:47:32,780 --> 00:47:29,640
sees these lights just coming and

1036
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:32,790
approaching and they set down in this

1037
00:47:40,150 --> 00:47:36,690
Copps of trees nearby and a few minutes

1038
00:47:42,799 --> 00:47:40,160
later his dog just starts going nuts so

1039
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:42,809
he looks over he could see these two

1040
00:47:48,590 --> 00:47:45,090
figures approaching him

1041
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:48,600
they're kind of wearing coveralls and

1042
00:47:54,620 --> 00:47:51,410
helmets with a with a visor on them and

1043
00:47:57,470 --> 00:47:54,630
they basically motioned for him to come

1044
00:47:59,930 --> 00:47:57,480
along with them so you've got one

1045
00:48:03,830 --> 00:47:59,940
leading and then one behind him and they

1046
00:48:06,350 --> 00:48:03,840
approach this craft that it's kind of a

1047
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:06,360
little donut shaped with a really

1048
00:48:13,220 --> 00:48:08,970
strange dome on top it's got these

1049
00:48:16,670 --> 00:48:13,230
porthole lights on and on the outer edge

1050
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:16,680
of it and there's this small stairway

1051
00:48:21,980 --> 00:48:19,530
leading up into an opening so they lead

1052
00:48:25,580 --> 00:48:21,990
him up in there he's standing in this

1053
00:48:28,550 --> 00:48:25,590
room for maybe a few minutes and this

1054
00:48:31,130 --> 00:48:28,560
shaft comes out of the floor and this

1055
00:48:34,070 --> 00:48:31,140
really loud booming voice says stand

1056
00:48:35,810 --> 00:48:34,080
under the amber light and at the time he

1057
00:48:38,180 --> 00:48:35,820
couldn't actually see an amber light so

1058
00:48:39,620 --> 00:48:38,190
he he moves forward a little bit and you

1059
00:48:41,270 --> 00:48:39,630
can see that you can finally see this

1060
00:48:43,670 --> 00:48:41,280
light coming down from the ceiling so

1061
00:48:46,460 --> 00:48:43,680
stands under this light and the loud

1062
00:48:50,750 --> 00:48:46,470
booming voice says what is your age and

1063
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:50,760
Alfred Berto says oh I'll be turning 78

1064
00:48:58,940 --> 00:48:55,050
on my next birthday and the alien beings

1065
00:49:06,830 --> 00:48:58,950
tell him you can go you are too old and

1066
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:06,840
infirm for our purpose so Albert you

1067
00:49:10,970 --> 00:49:09,330
know he wasn't dejected he didn't feel

1068
00:49:14,180 --> 00:49:10,980
dejected or anything he just went back

1069
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:14,190
to fishing and then he's fishing until

1070
00:49:19,780 --> 00:49:17,010
probably about noon the next day he runs

1071
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:19,790
into a couple of a Ministry of Defense

1072
00:49:24,230 --> 00:49:22,410
guys out there and you know he's talking

1073
00:49:26,390 --> 00:49:24,240
about it and they're like oh I guess you

1074
00:49:32,750 --> 00:49:26,400
did see that UFO I was like well that's

1075
00:49:35,090 --> 00:49:32,760
interesting but just too old and infirm

1076
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:35,100
for their purposes you know if it wasn't

1077
00:49:40,010 --> 00:49:37,530
enough that like society casts the

1078
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:40,020
elderly aside and forgets about them

1079
00:49:46,550 --> 00:49:42,930
even the [\h__\h] aliens won't take him

1080
00:49:48,380 --> 00:49:46,560
and I mean I think Dave Hagen this is

1081
00:49:51,020 --> 00:49:48,390
the best of us all because he you know

1082
00:49:52,670 --> 00:49:51,030
he's like how old now and apparently

1083
00:49:55,970 --> 00:49:52,680
he's still getting it I don't know

1084
00:49:57,410 --> 00:49:55,980
yo Dave Huggins is the man still macking

1085
00:50:01,520 --> 00:49:57,420
it with an alien at like

1086
00:50:02,420 --> 00:50:01,530
seventy-nine I think yeah yeah more

1087
00:50:05,630 --> 00:50:02,430
power to them

1088
00:50:08,660 --> 00:50:05,640
hey dude Oh got it use it that's all I

1089
00:50:10,700 --> 00:50:08,670
gotta say Rob now before we leave here

1090
00:50:12,829 --> 00:50:10,710
there is another series you do with your

1091
00:50:14,660 --> 00:50:12,839
show called the meltdown and these are

1092
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:14,670
where you get kind of like UFO happy

1093
00:50:19,370 --> 00:50:17,490
hour you let loose and you just air all

1094
00:50:21,890 --> 00:50:19,380
your frustration and and these are the

1095
00:50:23,569 --> 00:50:21,900
best episodes of any podcast that's

1096
00:50:25,789 --> 00:50:23,579
willing to like shed that

1097
00:50:28,549 --> 00:50:25,799
professionalism or that performance mode

1098
00:50:30,650 --> 00:50:28,559
and really tell their honest opinions so

1099
00:50:32,980 --> 00:50:30,660
I love when you guys do these episodes

1100
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:32,990
and you recently you recently covered

1101
00:50:40,789 --> 00:50:38,010
something that should not be back in the

1102
00:50:43,370 --> 00:50:40,799
UFO conversation and up for debate but

1103
00:50:46,099 --> 00:50:43,380
for some [\h__\h] reason it is I don't

1104
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:46,109
know why but people think the alien

1105
00:50:51,770 --> 00:50:49,890
autopsy video once again is real but you

1106
00:50:54,770 --> 00:50:51,780
recently covered it and you talked about

1107
00:50:57,589 --> 00:50:54,780
the Frakes man so what was this meltdown

1108
00:50:59,720 --> 00:50:57,599
episode man so I had my buddies Brian

1109
00:51:02,960 --> 00:50:59,730
and Angelo from double-density on and

1110
00:51:08,030 --> 00:51:02,970
man we did what we call the freaks

1111
00:51:11,059 --> 00:51:08,040
trilogy which is the the alien autopsy

1112
00:51:13,849 --> 00:51:11,069
video and two specials that he did in 97

1113
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:13,859
and 2000 called UFOs the best evidence

1114
00:51:21,049 --> 00:51:18,450
ever caught on tape which oh yeah yeah

1115
00:51:23,270 --> 00:51:21,059
which most of those were not the best

1116
00:51:25,700 --> 00:51:23,280
evidence ever caught on tape some of

1117
00:51:28,339 --> 00:51:25,710
them were very much street lights some

1118
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:28,349
of them were the reflection of indoor

1119
00:51:33,799 --> 00:51:31,890
lights you know from a window and you

1120
00:51:35,839 --> 00:51:33,809
know there were a couple of them we gave

1121
00:51:41,150 --> 00:51:35,849
a little credit to Jaime moose on during

1122
00:51:44,420 --> 00:51:41,160
the 1990 Mexico City Eclipse footage

1123
00:51:47,450 --> 00:51:44,430
because some of its good but most of it

1124
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:47,460
we've actually we've actually asked like

1125
00:51:51,829 --> 00:51:49,410
you know instead of getting wrapped up

1126
00:51:54,710 --> 00:51:51,839
in these alien mummy hoaxes why don't

1127
00:51:57,500 --> 00:51:54,720
you like digitize all these videos that

1128
00:51:59,510 --> 00:51:57,510
you say you have like over 5,000 UFO

1129
00:52:02,120 --> 00:51:59,520
videos that you've been sent why don't

1130
00:52:05,089 --> 00:52:02,130
we just digitize those buddy just come

1131
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:05,099
on even we even offered to set up a

1132
00:52:09,859 --> 00:52:08,010
patreon forum I mean come on Jaime he

1133
00:52:10,250 --> 00:52:09,869
doesn't need your money trust me that's

1134
00:52:13,340 --> 00:52:10,260
doing

1135
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:13,350
just fine I know but I figured it would

1136
00:52:19,580 --> 00:52:15,410
be a little more motivation but you know

1137
00:52:24,490 --> 00:52:19,590
but we talked about the race until the

1138
00:52:28,100 --> 00:52:24,500
alien autopsy video from the absolute oh

1139
00:52:28,670 --> 00:52:28,110
just great special alien autopsy factor

1140
00:52:30,650 --> 00:52:28,680
fiction

1141
00:52:33,410 --> 00:52:30,660
oh dude I watch it like on a monthly

1142
00:52:36,590 --> 00:52:33,420
basis it's on Netflix right now and like

1143
00:52:38,720 --> 00:52:36,600
I always go back to it because even even

1144
00:52:40,820 --> 00:52:38,730
without the videos of the alien it's a

1145
00:52:43,490 --> 00:52:40,830
pretty good wrap-up of the Roswell

1146
00:52:45,140 --> 00:52:43,500
incident to be honest they got a row on

1147
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:45,150
there who you don't hear from that often

1148
00:52:48,980 --> 00:52:47,490
so though yeah so how did it go

1149
00:52:53,180 --> 00:52:48,990
would you guys what were your

1150
00:52:55,370 --> 00:52:53,190
conclusions were the the interesting

1151
00:52:58,280 --> 00:52:55,380
thing is is like yeah you get the the

1152
00:52:59,980 --> 00:52:58,290
Roswell portion up front and then you

1153
00:53:03,950 --> 00:52:59,990
have all these quote-unquote experts

1154
00:53:10,990 --> 00:53:03,960
looking at this you know video and and

1155
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:11,000
one of them is Cyril Brecht the All Star

1156
00:53:17,540 --> 00:53:15,330
he was the was a medical examiner that

1157
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:17,550
was like featured on every program in

1158
00:53:23,750 --> 00:53:20,970
the 90s in 2000 Cyril Wecht just an

1159
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:23,760
interesting guy and he's somehow

1160
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:25,770
convinced that this is an actual life

1161
00:53:30,410 --> 00:53:28,770
farm okay we got a medical examiner

1162
00:53:34,250 --> 00:53:30,420
convinced this is an actual life form

1163
00:53:37,730 --> 00:53:34,260
then we have Stan Winston now Stan

1164
00:53:40,550 --> 00:53:37,740
Winston Stan Winston built the freakin

1165
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:40,560
dinosaurs from Jurassic Park he was just

1166
00:53:44,660 --> 00:53:42,570
at first he's like no this is fake and

1167
00:53:46,730 --> 00:53:44,670
then you know as you go along he's like

1168
00:53:48,620 --> 00:53:46,740
oh no this has got to be real because we

1169
00:53:51,140 --> 00:53:48,630
couldn't even duplicate this and you

1170
00:53:53,330 --> 00:53:51,150
know today even though one guy

1171
00:53:55,990 --> 00:53:53,340
duplicated it in his London flat he

1172
00:53:58,040 --> 00:53:56,000
built it this one too flat yeah come on

1173
00:54:01,520 --> 00:53:58,050
how much did they pay him to say that

1174
00:54:03,500 --> 00:54:01,530
right right I mean realistically this

1175
00:54:05,660 --> 00:54:03,510
this special the only thing this special

1176
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:05,670
is missing was Bruce Maccabee because he

1177
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:07,170
falls for most things hook line and

1178
00:54:10,850 --> 00:54:09,210
sinker god bless you Bruce but some

1179
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:10,860
things you put a little too much stock

1180
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:20,570
in belfries crop circle videos but yeah

1181
00:54:27,650 --> 00:54:24,090
we we we toured a new one

1182
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:27,660
just you I don't understand how people

1183
00:54:33,770 --> 00:54:30,330
could still believe this after Ray

1184
00:54:36,260 --> 00:54:33,780
Santilli himself said that he had to

1185
00:54:39,230 --> 00:54:36,270
quote-unquote remake this footage

1186
00:54:42,110 --> 00:54:39,240
because he saw a video that he saw video

1187
00:54:44,750 --> 00:54:42,120
footage of this originally but it was in

1188
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:44,760
so poor quality he had to refilm it in

1189
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:47,850
himself and then you had I forget what

1190
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:50,370
his name was in 2017 saying oh yeah I

1191
00:54:56,690 --> 00:54:52,410
created this in my London flat it wasn't

1192
00:55:00,080 --> 00:54:56,700
that hard Spiro something yes yeah so I

1193
00:55:02,930 --> 00:55:00,090
don't know there's actually a good movie

1194
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:02,940
I remember watching I think Bill Pullman

1195
00:55:13,870 --> 00:55:07,530
was even in it if there was a 2006 movie

1196
00:55:17,420 --> 00:55:13,880
yeah it was it was a British movie yeah

1197
00:55:20,540 --> 00:55:17,430
do you know who created that guys that

1198
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:20,550
hosts British British Got Talent all

1199
00:55:25,190 --> 00:55:23,490
right there you go Bret Scott tell ya

1200
00:55:28,100 --> 00:55:25,200
the the two hosts that they have on

1201
00:55:31,340 --> 00:55:28,110
there created that movie okay it's

1202
00:55:33,590 --> 00:55:31,350
actually I really enjoyed it yeah it's a

1203
00:55:35,450 --> 00:55:33,600
step by step of how they did this thing

1204
00:55:37,100 --> 00:55:35,460
but um right I don't know if you know

1205
00:55:38,690 --> 00:55:37,110
anything about all this [\h__\h] going on

1206
00:55:41,930 --> 00:55:38,700
right now with people claiming that it

1207
00:55:45,770 --> 00:55:41,940
actually is real and that like admirals

1208
00:55:48,950 --> 00:55:45,780
or someone are saying that it was real I

1209
00:55:52,460 --> 00:55:48,960
don't know I think it was in one of the

1210
00:55:53,990 --> 00:55:52,470
Eric Davis memos okay they were talking

1211
00:55:57,380 --> 00:55:54,000
about it and one of those because they

1212
00:55:59,000 --> 00:55:57,390
were also talking about the MJ MJ 12

1213
00:56:02,150 --> 00:55:59,010
documents being real

1214
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:02,160
I had MJ binaya son last year and we

1215
00:56:06,770 --> 00:56:04,170
talked about the the Paul bennewitz

1216
00:56:08,270 --> 00:56:06,780
stuff and the mj-12 documents and you

1217
00:56:10,850 --> 00:56:08,280
know he's like empty twelve what's a

1218
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:10,860
thing but they just didn't investigate

1219
00:56:16,370 --> 00:56:14,370
aliens they were involved in covering up

1220
00:56:18,050 --> 00:56:16,380
but you know atomic fallout and stuff

1221
00:56:21,230 --> 00:56:18,060
like that that's what they were there

1222
00:56:24,470 --> 00:56:21,240
for and I mean if you have heard of the

1223
00:56:26,270 --> 00:56:24,480
mj-12 documents what you need to do now

1224
00:56:28,700 --> 00:56:26,280
is go to the internet and look up

1225
00:56:30,380 --> 00:56:28,710
something called the prat tapes if you

1226
00:56:32,690 --> 00:56:30,390
go and look for the prat tapes you can

1227
00:56:35,780 --> 00:56:32,700
pretty much tell where the mj-12 stuff

1228
00:56:37,910 --> 00:56:35,790
came from not to mention and the first

1229
00:56:40,460 --> 00:56:37,920
mj-12 documents who were they said to

1230
00:56:41,690 --> 00:56:40,470
jamee Shandra and bill bore he hasn't

1231
00:56:45,049 --> 00:56:41,700
been wrapped up in any sort of

1232
00:56:47,599 --> 00:56:45,059
disinformation controversies not at all

1233
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:47,609
no not at all he I mean he didn't admit

1234
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:50,490
to like you know playing his part in the

1235
00:56:55,339 --> 00:56:52,290
Paul bennewitz affair at all like in

1236
00:56:57,740 --> 00:56:55,349
1989 at the MUFON symposium like that

1237
00:56:59,210 --> 00:56:57,750
that symposium had to be like you know

1238
00:57:01,220 --> 00:56:59,220
gangbusters I wish I could have been

1239
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:01,230
there ah yeah I know Greg Bishop was

1240
00:57:05,270 --> 00:57:03,210
there at the time he said like you know

1241
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:05,280
those people were if if there were

1242
00:57:10,039 --> 00:57:07,290
pitchforks they're being sold they would

1243
00:57:12,349 --> 00:57:10,049
have sold out in like two minutes I'm

1244
00:57:15,079 --> 00:57:12,359
sure because I mean I can't imagine it's

1245
00:57:18,470 --> 00:57:15,089
an easy thing to get up there and say oh

1246
00:57:21,410 --> 00:57:18,480
yeah I helped ruin Paul bennewitz his

1247
00:57:23,750 --> 00:57:21,420
life in return I get all this off that

1248
00:57:25,250 --> 00:57:23,760
dick UFO information I mean a lot of

1249
00:57:27,170 --> 00:57:25,260
people think this is you know the whole

1250
00:57:29,180 --> 00:57:27,180
Tom DeLonge thing like he's getting fed

1251
00:57:30,859 --> 00:57:29,190
actual information but then he's gonna

1252
00:57:32,809 --> 00:57:30,869
pump out a whole different narrative to

1253
00:57:35,299 --> 00:57:32,819
the to the public no I don't believe

1254
00:57:37,730 --> 00:57:35,309
that but at the end of the date man it's

1255
00:57:39,500 --> 00:57:37,740
the fact that we're still talking about

1256
00:57:42,710 --> 00:57:39,510
the alien autopsy video and that it

1257
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:42,720
could be real what kind of world are we

1258
00:57:48,380 --> 00:57:46,170
living in it just it astounds me that

1259
00:57:51,049 --> 00:57:48,390
this is happening that the entry mj-12

1260
00:57:53,270 --> 00:57:51,059
documents the alien autopsy are being

1261
00:57:56,210 --> 00:57:53,280
debated again and that's the UFO field

1262
00:57:59,299 --> 00:57:56,220
there's such amnesia when it comes to

1263
00:58:01,849 --> 00:57:59,309
these things that people are so hungry

1264
00:58:04,220 --> 00:58:01,859
to believe in something that the minute

1265
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:04,230
someone says let me recycle that alien

1266
00:58:07,039 --> 00:58:06,450
autopsy thing again and let's see what

1267
00:58:09,980 --> 00:58:07,049
happens

1268
00:58:14,329 --> 00:58:09,990
people are gonna [\h__\h] believe it it's

1269
00:58:16,190 --> 00:58:14,339
astounding right like the thing is it's

1270
00:58:17,839 --> 00:58:16,200
like I had hook line sinker what I would

1271
00:58:19,940 --> 00:58:17,849
tell you to do is to go out and do a

1272
00:58:23,450 --> 00:58:19,950
little more research and that's really

1273
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:23,460
what this field of study is it's looking

1274
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:25,890
into all angles of this and saying oh

1275
00:58:29,930 --> 00:58:27,930
well I think there's something to this

1276
00:58:32,450 --> 00:58:29,940
or no this is completely bogus and I

1277
00:58:34,339 --> 00:58:32,460
mean if you go to the FBI's website and

1278
00:58:37,339 --> 00:58:34,349
you look at the mj-12 documents somebody

1279
00:58:39,589 --> 00:58:37,349
basically wrote bogus and big black

1280
00:58:41,299 --> 00:58:39,599
letters on these documents and put

1281
00:58:43,900 --> 00:58:41,309
pictures of them on their website that's

1282
00:58:47,870 --> 00:58:43,910
what they think of them and I mean

1283
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:47,880
here's a good barometer so the Psalm 101

1284
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:51,450
manual that was sent to Don Berliner

1285
00:58:57,530 --> 00:58:55,890
in 1991 I believe it was now Clifford

1286
00:59:01,160 --> 00:58:57,540
stone do you know who Clifford stone is

1287
00:59:03,290 --> 00:59:01,170
the crash retrieval guy yeah yeah

1288
00:59:05,660 --> 00:59:03,300
they asked Clifford stone about the

1289
00:59:07,670 --> 00:59:05,670
Psalm 101 manual he's like now it's it's

1290
00:59:11,270 --> 00:59:07,680
not like anything that I had to work

1291
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:11,280
with so I don't think it's real no it's

1292
00:59:13,610 --> 00:59:11,970
not real

1293
00:59:17,060 --> 00:59:13,620
yeah if Clifford stone who will believe

1294
00:59:19,660 --> 00:59:17,070
anything is saying that then that means

1295
00:59:25,100 --> 00:59:19,670
something yeah that's definitely

1296
00:59:27,740 --> 00:59:25,110
significant and okay like like my advice

1297
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:27,750
to people is go look at every aspect of

1298
00:59:32,750 --> 00:59:30,330
something and then draw your conclusions

1299
00:59:34,850 --> 00:59:32,760
don't just don't just listen to me all

1300
00:59:37,190 --> 00:59:34,860
right don't just listen to one person if

1301
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:37,200
you're gonna listen to me just go out

1302
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:40,410
find every bit and piece of information

1303
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:42,570
about one certain thing that you can and

1304
00:59:49,850 --> 00:59:45,330
then draw your own conclusions I mean

1305
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:49,860
that what some people say you know to do

1306
00:59:56,930 --> 00:59:54,810
in some forms of entertainment I'm not

1307
00:59:59,750 --> 00:59:56,940
gonna name names here but like there are

1308
01:00:01,790 --> 00:59:59,760
some people that say I want you to draw

1309
01:00:04,490 --> 01:00:01,800
your own conclusion but don't do an

1310
01:00:06,890 --> 01:00:04,500
honest job of giving you honest

1311
01:00:09,670 --> 01:00:06,900
information so you need to go out and

1312
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:09,680
you need to go look for that information

1313
01:00:14,300 --> 01:00:12,210
unfortunately these days because yeah

1314
01:00:16,790 --> 01:00:14,310
it's a tough world and you may not know

1315
01:00:19,220 --> 01:00:16,800
who you could trust that's a really good

1316
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:19,230
point man if I've learned anything from

1317
01:00:23,660 --> 01:00:21,330
working in the entertainment field as of

1318
01:00:25,550 --> 01:00:23,670
late it's say you don't know who you can

1319
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:25,560
trust and you have to be very careful

1320
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:28,170
and at the end of the day like don't pay

1321
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:29,730
for someone to tell you what to think

1322
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:32,130
just think on your own that's why we're

1323
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:34,170
here that's why we have brains that's

1324
01:00:39,710 --> 01:00:37,410
why we have the freedom to learn so like

1325
01:00:44,210 --> 01:00:39,720
do it do it right

1326
01:00:46,790 --> 01:00:44,220
learn research put the legwork in and be

1327
01:00:49,100 --> 01:00:46,800
honest with yourself about the

1328
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:49,110
information that you are receiving don't

1329
01:00:54,290 --> 01:00:51,330
just outright Lee discount it because it

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doesn't fall into your line of belief

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system or the the belief that you have

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and somebody now that you're not looking

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01:01:05,060 --> 01:01:02,880
for belief in people you're looking for

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the actual information the facts

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so follow those don't follow the beliefs

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of other people and in particular Steven

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Greer I think I think it's kind of like

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a tradition that we just like you know

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name column at least once and one

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episode I think his name comes up at

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least once but while we're at it Corey

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01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:26,310
good done it done yeah yep Corey go get

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out of here you know what you know who's

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01:01:34,780 --> 01:01:31,230
a better version of Corey Goode is Randy

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Cramer I love Randy Cramer to death like

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01:01:39,950 --> 01:01:37,500
he's he's in that line but he's not as

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01:01:42,140 --> 01:01:39,960
egotistical go go listen to Randy Cramer

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if you're into that kind of like secret

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01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:44,340
space program kind of stuff go listen to

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01:01:50,300 --> 01:01:47,850
him yeah well if they're not listening

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01:01:52,580 --> 01:01:50,310
to Randy Cramer Rob where can they

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01:01:54,620 --> 01:01:52,590
listen like this transition here where

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can they listen to the outer strange

1354
01:01:59,930 --> 01:01:57,840
skies podcast brother well you can find

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01:02:02,150 --> 01:01:59,940
it on pretty much every single podcast

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01:02:04,940 --> 01:02:02,160
app and you can find it at the new

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01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:04,950
website our strange skies calm I've only

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01:02:08,210 --> 01:02:06,570
been doing this for almost two years we

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01:02:09,710 --> 01:02:08,220
finally got a website dude it's

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beautiful by the way

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01:02:14,810 --> 01:02:12,480
yeah I've done by the great desdemona

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01:02:16,220 --> 01:02:14,820
that's the only thing that I will call

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01:02:18,410 --> 01:02:16,230
her the great Desdemona because she's

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01:02:22,070 --> 01:02:18,420
great at everything she does she does

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01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:22,080
all the artwork for our website and most

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01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:24,690
of the t-shirts and merch that you can

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01:02:28,850 --> 01:02:26,250
find at our tea public store have been

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01:02:34,580 --> 01:02:28,860
done by her and she did one for me too

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01:02:36,890 --> 01:02:34,590
yeah she is if you're intrigued by the

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Antonio Villas Boas story we have a

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01:02:41,270 --> 01:02:39,030
t-shirt over there the Antonio Diaz Bose

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01:02:45,500 --> 01:02:41,280
craft it's really pretty cool

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01:02:49,100 --> 01:02:45,510
so yes Boas is boss

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01:02:51,470 --> 01:02:49,110
oh he is boss I mean just like he was

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01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:51,480
taken aboard that UFO but he didn't seem

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01:02:57,410 --> 01:02:54,090
to have too bad a time yeah dude party

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01:02:59,540 --> 01:02:57,420
it up yeah that's all I gotta say Rob

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01:03:01,880 --> 01:02:59,550
thank you as always brother for coming

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01:03:04,550 --> 01:03:01,890
on given your honest opinion in a field

1380
01:03:07,460 --> 01:03:04,560
that is always afraid it seems to be

1381
01:03:10,190 --> 01:03:07,470
honest so I love doing this it's so

1382
01:03:12,310 --> 01:03:10,200
refreshing again everyone go check out

1383
01:03:13,990 --> 01:03:12,320
the our strange skies podcast

1384
01:03:16,210 --> 01:03:14,000
and I cannot thank you enough for

1385
01:03:18,350 --> 01:03:16,220
tipping one back with me again right I

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01:03:20,100 --> 01:03:18,360
appreciate it man thank you so much

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01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:20,110
[Music]

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that's it for this volume of UFO happy

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01:03:25,930 --> 01:03:23,570
hour

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as always my sincere thanks to rob

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01:03:29,140 --> 01:03:26,990
Kristofferson

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01:03:31,300 --> 01:03:29,150
for coming on if you're listening to

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01:03:33,550 --> 01:03:31,310
this episode upon release on Monday

1394
01:03:35,940 --> 01:03:33,560
please be sure to tune in to my brand

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01:03:39,010 --> 01:03:35,950
new episode of mysteries decoding

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01:03:41,490 --> 01:03:39,020
tomorrow Tuesday September 10th at 9

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p.m. Eastern a p.m. central on the CW

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01:03:46,780 --> 01:03:44,090
network if you're listening to this

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01:03:49,540 --> 01:03:46,790
after September 10th the episode is free

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01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:53,960
to watch it visit CWC calm and just look

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anywhere in Michigan that you'll join me

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at the Michigan UFO contact them in how

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01:05:00,100 --> 01:04:57,140
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podcast network kgr a radio and

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01:05:05,770 --> 01:05:03,590
especially to you for listening I'll see

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01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:05,780
you here next week and remember keep

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01:05:12,110 --> 01:05:08,090
your feet on the ground but never stop

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01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:14,550
somewhere in the skies is produced by

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Third Kind productions in association

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with the entertainment one podcast